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 Post subject: Re: cubo 12
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2010, 11:19 
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ok I know but how do you take care of the driver volume? if mounted reversed for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: cubo 12
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2010, 11:53 
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Good question. I haven't consider a reverse speaker, so if it is reverse, sim may differ a bit. But you can simulate this with anothers 2 segments which consider lost volume by the speaker in the end of the horn.


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 Post subject: Re: cubo 12
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2010, 13:13 
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Right....now the next question is what value have to be reduced? I mean you have 2 segment so 3 height values and 2 lenght values one width...so...
h1= segment 1 throat
h2=segment 1 mouth segment segment 2 throat
h3=segment 2 mout
l12=lenght segment 1
l23=lenght segment 3

get the total volume of both segment because I can't figure how the driver volume is spreaded into them, and obtain value wich consider the driver...but what value have to be moltiplicated by the width?
((h1+h3)*(l12+l23)*width/2-drivervolume)/(width*?)

hope that could be clear.


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 Post subject: Re: cubo 12
PostPosted: 29 Jul 2010, 14:05 
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That's an interesting plot, can you post the AkAbak script or input that you used? I use Hornresp mostly for Cubo 12 and measurements.

The PD driver (12SB30) can be used for Cubo 12.

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 Post subject: Re: cubo 12
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 09:58 
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that's interesting...
could you post the plot of cubo12? So I'll try to match my sim to the measurement.

cheers, bitzo


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 Post subject: Re: cubo 12
PostPosted: 02 Aug 2010, 16:15 
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Here's the Declaration part, it's fully parametrized now for cubo12. So you can switch from cubo12 to cubo15 extended etc... only changing panel lenght angle depth height and width.

edit: I make a mistake in the definition of h6r now corrected in the last file uploaded
edit2: A mistake in l34 now corrected...damn trigonometry


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 Post subject: Re: cubo 12
PostPosted: 02 Aug 2010, 17:06 
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joeysub wrote:
its been put up on the plans page , on the top row!!!!

Oops, forgot to look there! Thanks tho', got it now :thumbup:


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 Post subject: Re: cubo 12
PostPosted: 04 Aug 2010, 09:42 
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here's the last part of the script... a few instruction..
if you want to switch from a reversed driver mount in a straight one you have to:
-In Vtc definition put -drivervolume instead of conevolume;
-In L56 and L67 definition put h6r instead of h6;
-change the radius in the cone area definition accordingly to your driver.

enjoy...


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 Post subject: Re: cubo 12
PostPosted: 17 Aug 2010, 15:21 
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Lol, that’s a very complicated but physically correct script. Definitely was an interesting read, made my day.

To answer some other questions from this thread, as I finally have the time to do so (it’s vacation so my internet time has been decimated). Making a Cubo 212 with the horn mouth’s together is in my personal opinion the best way to go. You could use a divider panel USB-style, in fact the first Cubo 212 prototype was initially build without divider panel. If phase is reversed for one of the drivers, lacking a divider panel means that the output is reduced enormously. Therefore I would expect that, in the scenario where one of the drivers is permanently leaving this earth (during a performance), output is decreased substantially when there is no divider panel used at all. That would be a no-go.

Adding the beginning of the horn path’s together should work, however for reasoning mentioned above, I would use a divider panel in that case. The same goes for adding Cubo’s side by side.

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 Post subject: Re: cubo 12
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2010, 20:38 
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Cubo15 wrote:
Lol, that’s a very complicated but physically correct script. Definitely was an interesting read, made my day.
......

smiley20
I wrote it because I'm modelling a 10" version for my home theatre system. I have strictly dimension because of furniture. May be should be nice for caraudio too.


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